Comments on: Coalition Thoughts

By: anon

anon — Sat, 06 Jun 2009 14:16:38 +0000

Yuri-D. The “no one to work with’ are Tym and Yanuk and referred to Kuzio’s remark that Yush couldn’t work with either of his Prime Ministers,,as if, because there were two of them that showed that Yush was the problem.

As for who Yush spoke to I can’t see any point in his speaking to Tym – her word can’t be relied upon – even a politician’s word has to be mean something and she has not even the minimal integrity required.

I honestly don’t know much about the performance of the ex-ex defence minister but given his enthusiastic support of the ousting of his successor who I think Tym just pinned on a corrupt label to get rid of him without the least justification I don’t blame Yush for giving up on him either.

Finally Yush doesn’t need any lessons from his American wife on democracy – he’s acted his part in absolute compliance with democratic norms, freedom of the press and they’ve been really critical of him, fair elections (even though he’s always lost them) and including calling elections in 2007. All he said that if the people wanted a Yanuk premership with a 300plus veto busting majority with all its extensive implications they should explicitly vote for it because the previous vote for the RADA did not indicate this. It turned out that they really did not want any such thing.

By: Yuri_D

Yuri_D — Fri, 05 Jun 2009 15:55:57 +0000

anon – it seems that you are either too far from Ukraine or too near to Yushchenko.
If it’s the first case – it’s a great difference between what Yushchenko said and what he did. Maybe you don’t know but when Grytsenko was a Minister of Defence (he also was Yushchenko’s protege) – he could not meet with president for months and was resigned without any interview. Compare please with Yekhanurov whom Yushchenko’s servants are positioning as “the only Ukrainian patriot” – one could see him on the right hand of Yushchenko near every day.
Tymoshenko (as Prime Minister) both in 2005 and 2008 could not speak with him even by phone (blocked by his “secretaries”) whereas Yushchenko’s meetings with Yanukovich were held on a regular basis (starting from so-called “memorandum”), and what’s interesting – mainly in evening time.
You are saying “There was simply no one to work with” – and this is more than strange – maybe “the people and country is bad?” On my opinion, Yushchenko’s patriarchal understanding of democracy is somewhere at the level of “good old times” when “otamans” were considered as “fathers of nation”. In 2004 as opposed to one of “Regional’s” arguments in anti-Yushchenko’s propaganda (“his wife is American!”) – I considered this as a great plus, maybe she will teach him the ABC of democracy. Unfortunately – no results.
If it’s the second case (too near) – well, politics should not be considered as Gods or the subjects of worship.
As for Taras’es analysis – it’s much more corresponds to reality than our own Ukrainian’s so called “polytologists”.

By: Wolodymir

Wolodymir — Fri, 05 Jun 2009 15:53:53 +0000

“It is simply not true that Yushchenko is the good guy here and Tymoshenko-Yanukovych are the bad guys.”

Your quote, not mine.

You can delete this post Taras, but you have written nothing but articles condeming anyone and everyone who has criticized Tymoshenko, from Yushchenko to Yatseniuk, yet you fail to admit it when Tymoshenko has commited the ultimate sin. Like her, you go on to blame everyone else but. With her most recent snafu, you will soon be writing for the Inquirer.

By: Wolodymir

Wolodymir — Fri, 05 Jun 2009 15:49:48 +0000

“It is simply not true that Yushchenko is the good guy here and Tymoshenko-Yanukovych are the bad guys.”

Your quote, not mine.

By: Taras Kuzio

Taras Kuzio — Fri, 05 Jun 2009 15:34:05 +0000

No, you are wrong. I do not think like that in any shape or form. See my article from Ukraine Analyst in the next post.