Comments on: Ukraine’s Orange Revolution Five Years On

By: Heel

Heel — Wed, 10 Feb 2010 04:54:31 +0000

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By: anon

anon — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 05:03:54 +0000

Yuri-D – which Ukraine Pravda have you been reading? There was nothing critical about Tym in it until recently, apart from in the opinion colemns – you would never have supposed she was PM and responsible for anything. You also obviously missed the completely hostile psychological portrait of the President portraying him as a paranoid with homosexual tendencies without one redeeming feature.(I agree that was yellow and such a thing would never have appeared in the western press bad as it is) There was no equivalent either about Tym or Yanuk which anyhow as someone commented would only discussed the angelic significance of the white colour of her dress and party symbol.

As for journalists showing panic – if Yanuk and Tym are really discussing changes to the constitution why are they doing it in secret as if it’s nobody’s concern except their own and so that only rumours are reaching the paper. Sure maybe they’re not but somehow I don’t think there’s anybody in the country whether they read UP or not, who doesn’t think they are and the only thing that’s in the balance is whether they can finally reach an agreement

And as for sowing panic about the economic situation, the government not publishing economic statistic is the most potent way of arousing fears that there’s a problem.

By: elmer

elmer — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 12:45:37 +0000

As for panic on the “new coalition” – let’s not wait.

It has been 5 years. Why has the party list system not been changed? Why has immunity for Parliament not been changed?

The problem IS the type of government – because Ukraine has neither fish nor fowl. Ukraine does not have a presidential system, and it doesn’t have a parliamentary system.

In either one, in a normal system, people get to vote DIRECTLY for a representative – NOT for a “party list.”

In other systems, there is a balance of power.

In Ukraine, there are simply oligarchs and their representatives, who clash for power.

The “new coalition” is simply an attempt to keep oligarchs in power, and to minimize the clashes.

But such a “new coalition” does not represent the people – it is not a representative democracy.

And it won’t minimize the clashes, which are based only on the desire of oligarchs to steal as much as they can for themselves.

Yushchenko says Odessa-Brody pipeline direction should go one way – Tymoshenko says it should go the other way.

In the meantime, Akhmetov, Kolomoisky, Firtash, etc., keep on stealing.

By: Yuri_D

Yuri_D — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 09:01:42 +0000

Where this panic comes from?
I’ll try to answer – mainly from our Ukrainian journalists who are far not “the watchdogs of democracy” – most of them are watching the “goodies” of their owners and serving those who pays more for lie.
“Ukrainian Pravda” from 2004-2005 came down from really democratic informational resource to typical yellow press (I don’t know who’s the owner, but 90% of its content is “against Tymoshenko”, very “soft” criticism on Yushchenko, Yanukovich & Co. and even defence of such persons as Firtash, Baloga). It’s even enough to read only the headers in UP to understand this. Such authors as Leshchenko, Mustafa Nayem – they are typical paparazzi. Unfortunately other central editions as well as TV are working in a similar way.
It’s such a feeling that rumours, gossips is the only source of information. Also spreading panic became very popular among such kind of journalists – last year autumn our “economical analytics” predicted up to 15hrn per dollar, default of economics, etc. And what does president Yushchenko do? Instead of mobilization of nation (how he likes to use these words – “nation”, “challenge”!), he every day and even abroad as mantra repeats: “it will be worse…”. But if it were only words – everyday he (by hands of his servants) opposes any attempt of government to stabilize the situation.
As for panic on “new coalition” – let’s wait for official propositions and actions. By the way, why nobody (from journalists, politologists to president Yushchenko) did not support Tymoshenko’s propositions on constitutional referendum before last elections? On my opinion it was normal idea – to ask people before developing the new constitution. As she repeated more than once – the main problem is not in the type of government (presidential or parliament) – but in the destructivity of confrontation of multiple parallel branches of power.

By: Wolodymyr

Wolodymyr — Sun, 31 May 2009 23:59:31 +0000

Well Taras, when this brood coalition forms and the constitution is changed to prolonge
Tymoshenko and Yanukovichs lust for power, I think you owe everyone an apology and admittance that you have been wrong about Tymoshneko. God help Ukraine.