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]]> By: Global Voices Online » Ukraine: The Mystery of Political Technologists http://blog.taraskuzio.net/2008/07/18/what-is-a-political-technologist/comment-page-1/#comment-18785 Global Voices Online » Ukraine: The Mystery of Political Technologists Sat, 26 Jul 2008 23:12:24 +0000 http://blog.taraskuzio.net/?p=73#comment-18785 [...] Kuzio ponders upon the mystery of political technologists and the bemusement with them despite their often inferior [...] [...] Kuzio ponders upon the mystery of political technologists and the bemusement with them despite their often inferior [...]

]]> By: Ukrainiana http://blog.taraskuzio.net/2008/07/18/what-is-a-political-technologist/comment-page-1/#comment-18766 Ukrainiana Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:07:39 +0000 http://blog.taraskuzio.net/?p=73#comment-18766 In Ukraine, the line between analysis and advocacy doesn’t get drawn very often. Karasiov has apparently taken a sharp turn to the latter, becoming something of a spin doctor for Yedyny Tsentr. Yedyny Tsentr operates as a replica of ZaYedu tasked with securing Yushchenko’s reelection in the spirit of Kuchma’s Yeltsin-style reelection in 1999. But that's no easy task. In a general election, Yushchenko stands no chance running against Tymoshenko or Yanukovych. Neither his oligarchization nor his redeeming pro-NATO/EU rhetoric will win him a second term. All things being equal, Yushchenko can only win (1) in an indirect election bankrolled by the oligarchs; (2) in the second round of a direct election, if running against Symonenko or Vitrenko. Neither scenario will do Ukraine any good. In Ukraine, the line between analysis and advocacy doesn’t get drawn very often.

Karasiov has apparently taken a sharp turn to the latter, becoming something of a spin doctor for Yedyny Tsentr.

Yedyny Tsentr operates as a replica of ZaYedu tasked with securing Yushchenko’s reelection in the spirit of Kuchma’s Yeltsin-style reelection in 1999.

But that’s no easy task. In a general election, Yushchenko stands no chance running against Tymoshenko or Yanukovych. Neither his oligarchization nor his redeeming pro-NATO/EU rhetoric will win him a second term.

All things being equal, Yushchenko can only win

(1) in an indirect election bankrolled by the oligarchs;
(2) in the second round of a direct election, if running against Symonenko or Vitrenko.

Neither scenario will do Ukraine any good.

]]> By: Yuri_D http://blog.taraskuzio.net/2008/07/18/what-is-a-political-technologist/comment-page-1/#comment-18759 Yuri_D Sun, 20 Jul 2008 12:24:10 +0000 http://blog.taraskuzio.net/?p=73#comment-18759 Dear Dr.Kuzio, Unfortunately Karasiov is a typical "specimen" in our political life. All these "politologists" are nothing else but professional liars. Their education is based on traditional for the former USSR school of so called "marxism-leninism teaching" - there was the whole army of teachers that gave lectures in universities (starting from "history of CPSU", "dialectic and historical materialism", "political economy", up to "marxist-leninist ethics and aesthetics!!??"). The only today difference is that there is more than one party, but it seems that they serve those who pays more money. Most of them are simply stupid and primitive (as Karasiov), some - as Pogrebinsky, Vydrin, Tabachnik - make impression of educated "intellectuals", but on my opinion what is common for all of them - the high level of cynicism. I like the precise Oscar Wilde's words about cynics: "A man who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing". Like you, I cannot understand how such kind of people can call themselves "scientists" (they really have PhDs and other titles). By education I am physicist and I cannot imagine the scientist who can "for money" distort well known laws of nature or deliberately lie against own convictions and common sense. But unfortunately only such liars have the monopoly for propaganda in today mass-media in Ukraine. P.S. Thanks to Internet it was easy to recall brilliant Orwell's words I've read long time ago in "1984". They also are applicable to most of our "politologists": "The keyword here is blackwhite. Like so many Newspeak words, this word has two mutually contradictory meanings. Applied to an opponent, it means the habit of impudently claiming that black is white, in contradiction of the plain facts. Applied to a Party member, it means a loyal willingness to say that black is white when Party discipline demands this. But it means also the ability to believe that black is white, and more, to know that black is white, and to forget that one has ever believed the contrary". Dear Dr.Kuzio,
Unfortunately Karasiov is a typical “specimen” in our political life. All these “politologists” are nothing else but professional liars. Their education is based on traditional for the former USSR school of so called “marxism-leninism teaching” – there was the whole army of teachers that gave lectures in universities (starting from “history of CPSU”, “dialectic and historical materialism”, “political economy”, up to “marxist-leninist ethics and aesthetics!!??”). The only today difference is that there is more than one party, but it seems that they serve those who pays more money. Most of them are simply stupid and primitive (as Karasiov), some – as Pogrebinsky, Vydrin, Tabachnik – make impression of educated “intellectuals”, but on my opinion what is common for all of them – the high level of cynicism. I like the precise Oscar Wilde’s words about cynics: “A man who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing”.
Like you, I cannot understand how such kind of people can call themselves “scientists” (they really have PhDs and other titles). By education I am physicist and I cannot imagine the scientist who can “for money” distort well known laws of nature or deliberately lie against own convictions and common sense. But unfortunately only such liars have the monopoly for propaganda in today mass-media in Ukraine.
P.S. Thanks to Internet it was easy to recall brilliant Orwell’s words I’ve read long time ago in “1984″. They also are applicable to most of our “politologists”:
“The keyword here is blackwhite. Like so many Newspeak words, this word has two mutually contradictory meanings. Applied to an opponent, it means the habit of impudently claiming that black is white, in contradiction of the plain facts. Applied to a Party member, it means a loyal willingness to say that black is white when Party discipline demands this. But it means also the ability to believe that black is white, and more, to know that black is white, and to forget that one has ever believed the contrary”.

]]> By: Vitaliy http://blog.taraskuzio.net/2008/07/18/what-is-a-political-technologist/comment-page-1/#comment-18751 Vitaliy Fri, 18 Jul 2008 19:23:18 +0000 http://blog.taraskuzio.net/?p=73#comment-18751 Remaining optimistic about Yushchenko's reelection for a second term with current approval ratings is gullible. Maybe Karasiov knows something we don't? Remaining optimistic about Yushchenko’s reelection for a second term with current approval ratings is gullible. Maybe Karasiov knows something we don’t?

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